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Show Notes

What if your hot tub could become more than just a luxury item? Join us, Jackie Johnson, the Hot Tub Lady, and my co-host Frank, as we reveal how hot tubs are evolving into essential wellness appliances. Discover the myriad benefits they offer, from stress relief to improved sleep, and why we believe every homeowner should consider making this investment. We'll also tackle common concerns about utility costs and share our personal hot tub experiences, providing insights into the unmatched comfort and therapeutic benefits of Caldera spas. 

Home improvements can be truly transformative, especially when it includes installing a Caldera spa in your backyard. We recount the excitement of adding a new fence, expertly put up by Doug at Solid Fence Company, to withstand South Dakota's notorious winds. As part of our journey, we invite you to follow us on Instagram through the 30 Day Soak Challenge, where we promise some exciting content. You’ll hear about the energy efficiency of Caldera spas, thanks to their FiberCore insulation, which ensures excellent heat retention and resilience even in the harshest winters.

For those in the market for a hot tub, we delve into the luxurious features of the Canabrea hot tub, which promises a unique, massage chair-like experience. We offer practical advice on purchasing and installation, emphasizing the importance of trying a hot tub before buying and building a relationship with a local dealer for post-sale support. From power code requirements to maintenance access, we've got tips to help you optimize your hot tub experience and ensure it meets your individual needs. Join us for an episode filled with insights and tips to elevate your hot tub journey!

Looking for answers to your hot tub questions? Look no further than Hot Tub Clarity! Our easy-to-understand guide is available now on Amazon. Simply search for Hot Tub Clarity Book and get your copy today. Plus, while you're there, check out our log books to keep your hot tub maintenance on track. Trust us, you won't regret it!

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Hey Hot Tubbers, welcome to the podcast Tub Talk with the Hot Tub Lady.

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I am Jackie Johnson, your host and joining me is I'm Frank.

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Welcome to the podcast, everyone.

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I am so excited to see you all.

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Let me see if I can get this camera fixed, just a little bit.

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Yeah, sorry folks, we're running a little bit behind today.

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We had some cold weather here, show up in Sioux Falls and some icy roads and Out in the field a little bit later than I thought, but let's get on with it.

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I'm trying so you talk all the time.

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I can't keep talking the few minutes I need you to talk.

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Oh, you need me to talk.

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I need you to talk.

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Welcome everybody.

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Welcome to the show.

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Appreciate everybody being here.

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Very knowledgeable show.

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Hopefully everybody gets a little bit of information out of us both.

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Say Jackie's been in the field for a long time so over 20 something probably 30 years now and I'm new to the game but been thrown into it and learned a lot, met a lot of great customers here in this past eight months.

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It's been very overwhelming and for you out there listening today, hopefully I can keep you informed on all the new things that are coming and all the expectations that we need to know and the wonderful life of hot tubbing.

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The wonderful life of hot tubbing.

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So, guys, again, thank you so much for joining us and if you're new to the podcast, welcome.

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We're super glad you are here and that's one of the things that we're super excited about.

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We do live stream every Tuesday night at 6.30.

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So you can definitely see us here.

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For that, definitely shoot us a comment, or we got Kyle and Kayla in the chat moderating that.

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And if you don't watch us on YouTube, we do drop the new podcast episode every Wednesday morning so you can listen wherever you listen to your favorite podcast.

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So that is one of the things that we are doing there.

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My program is not working correctly, so I apologize for the crop screen, but we will get that fixed next time.

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But in the meantime, let's just get started.

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We're going to do our new Tub Time Friends.

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Look at that, I got cool new rabbits.

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That's pretty cool, great job.

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That's why the screen didn't work before is because I was messing with that.

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Anyway, those of you watching that was pretty cool that I accomplished that there.

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But tub time trends that is one of the things that we're going to talk about.

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That's one of our new segments that we're going to talk about every week, and this week's tub time trends is that.

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Did you know that hot tubs are no longer a luxury item, they're actually an appliance.

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Did you know that they're actually categorized as an appliance?

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Just tonight.

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Just tonight you learned that it has been my.

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If you guys have followed me for any amount of time, I do believe that anybody who is breathing and has a heartbeat and has a home, you need to have a hot tub.

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It's something that everybody should have in their backyard.

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It's going to make you feel better.

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It's going to make you sleep better.

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It's going to make you do all the things.

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It's a wellness machine.

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Yes, it is.

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It's a bowl of medicine.

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It is a bowl of medicine.

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I was in mine this morning and it was that light, fluffy snow this morning before the sun came up.

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So those of you who live in Sioux Falls, it was the perfect hot tub morning.

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In fact I almost called in sick to work just so I could stay home in a hot tub, but I just felt so good I've become a morning user.

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I never used to be a morning user, but I'm a morning user now.

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I'm a night user mainly.

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I do both.

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I do both, you do both.

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Depends on the situation.

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I'll get into that later when I got some explanations to do about when is the right time to hot tub.

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So we'll get it.

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We'll jump into that when it's time but.

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But they're just, they're a wellness machine and everybody should have them and they're now.

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People are buying them for their wellness, for their stress relief, for their sleep relief, for their sleep for their high blood pressure, for all the things.

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It's going to get you off of the pills and it's going to get you into living your life and doing what you want to do longer.

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That is correct.

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That is definitely one of the tub time trends right now is it has gone from a box of water in your backyard to A box of water that squirts.

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Right.

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A big bath.

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That's a show off thing.

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And now to a big bowl of medicine.

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So it is a big bowl of medicine, and the hot tub industry and Watkins Wellness has led the charge on that.

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It's now about the messaging is about wellness, and every manufacturer out there right now is talking about the wellness that you get from your hot tub.

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But and I'll do a whole nother podcast on that, but just so you know hot tubs are no longer a luxury item.

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They are 100% a appliance that every person needs.

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If you don't have a hot tub, get a hot tub.

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You're going to need it, you're going to love it and that is and another thing we'll jump into tonight they're affordable.

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They are actually really affordable, and we'll jump into what people think they cost and how they're going to explode their utility bills and stuff like that.

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Don't panic, it's all good.

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Okay, frank just took us a whole nother route.

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So, as you guys all know, I'm selling the Caldera spas these days and we're going to just jump into the second category.

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And when it comes to buying a hot tub, you definitely need to buy a hot tub that fits you the most.

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So what Caldera is famous for is comfort.

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Performance in style.

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Their comfort is my number one thing.

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That is what I love the most about my hot tub is the comfort.

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Those seats just cradle you in place.

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It's like sitting in an Adirondack chair, wouldn't you?

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Yeah, so exactly yeah.

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I think, we jumped on it last week, where the two different types of hot tubs that I've had recently this one I have now completely fits me well.

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Stands me up, takes care of my feet, neck back.

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So and the comfort is absolutely amazing.

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And then you also have that foot ridge that holds you down.

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I'm short.

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I'm definitely on the shorter side of things, frank is about six foot.

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I'm 5'3".

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I float, that's just.

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I'm female, I've got all the curves in all the right places, which also means I have a little bit of extra buoyancy and I flow and with that foot ridge I can anchor myself down in, I can stay in the seat and I can get the therapy that I'm looking for.

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But comfort, and then performance, the performance of a caldera hot tub.

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The jets are absolutely outstanding.

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They do a complete system when it comes to getting you a massage.

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They completely, completely think about that.

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They have more R&D money than any other manufacturer that's out there, so they actually think about where each jet hits you and where you're going to be sitting and how you're going to stay in that seat.

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So when you sit in a Caldera and you sit back and you're like, wow, this is amazing, there's some serious thought and some serious money that has been spent on.

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Is this seat not only going to work for me, it's going to work for him and it's going to work for everybody else.

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Kayla is on here and she actually made the comment she goes lounger or no lounger.

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What are your thoughts on that?

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I'm a big fan of no lounger.

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That's just me, boy.

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I can't even count how many hot tubs I've been out to lately and lounge and no lounge.

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And the guys that love the lounge absolutely are crazy about it.

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It's the only spot they will sit in.

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They don't even want to get out of that lounge and they don't want to go to the other seat.

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It's like okay, I get that Me.

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I've sat in a lounge before.

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I'm the guy that's going to jump out and jump into the seat.

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So it's just a preference of how your body is, how it fits you.

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What part of feature do you want it to take care of on you?

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So it's one of those things.

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It's about you.

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Well, it is about you.

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I'm going to tell you what my experience is in the hundreds and hundreds of hot tubs I've sold is 90% of the people that come in the first time looking for a lounge.

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We'll sell them a lounge and the majority of my lineup that I sell does have a lounger.

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Now, most people I would say 70% of the people who buy a hot tub the first time get a hot tub the second time, and I would say 80% of those people that buy a hot tub the second time do not get a lounge.

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They prefer the four corner seating where they can converse and they can do their thing.

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Some people feel like it takes up an extra seat and that is one of the things when you're trying to decide what hot tub is perfect for you is how are you going to be using that hot tub?

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It's just Frank and I in our hot tub.

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That's a great point, because I have a customer out there it's just him and he's a very tall man and he's got one of the smaller hot tubs and he's all about that lounge and he absolutely adores it and loves it and that's the only spot he sits in, so the rest of it doesn't get used.

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But that's him.

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But get used.

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But that's him, but it's his, that's him, that's his hot tub and that's what he wants, and you definitely want to.

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When you get a hot tub, you want it to be your hot tub and you're going to get it the way that you're going to use it.

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So when you say lounge or no lounge, it's a question I get every single day.

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It's definitely a person.

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We get kayla to type back does she have a lounge or no lounge?

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And first of all do what do you like about your lounge, If you do have one?

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So okay, it'll take her a few minutes.

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I know the answer to that question but, we'll let her type back, so we it makes it a little more engaging area.

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And then also on the Calderas, is the style Um, they are just so beautiful.

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I don't know if you guys follow me on Instagram, but if you do Instagram or Facebook, we just got our fence up.

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Been waiting a long time for that fence.

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Shout out to Doug at Solid Fence Company Did a phenomenal job.

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Absolutely.

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Beautiful gray fence and it just ties into my backyard.

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Now it's totally.

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It's changed my backyard completely.

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And then the wind.

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This morning there was no wind, it was so awesome well, out here by the uh on the west side, out here and um of course the you know the jet stream moves in south dakota.

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It always comes from the west and the winds come from the west and get beat up, and so that fence has been a blessing it has has been a blessing, but it's just beautiful.

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But anyway, if you guys follow me on Instagram, I put up some really cool pictures in my day 26 of the 30 Day Soak Challenge.

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If you guys aren't following me on that, follow me on that.

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There's some really cool stuff coming on the 30 Day Soak Challenge.

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Oh, the 30 Day Soak Challenge is our blast.

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I've done a few of them.

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You don't even know what I'm working on.

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Can't wait to see it.

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Yeah, you're going to.

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It's going to blow your mind.

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I know?

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No, it's really going to blow your mind.

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It's some pretty cool stuff coming.

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Oh, good for you, you're the movie star.

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Oh, it's not about movie stars, it's not about that at all, but it's some cool things that, if you guys are following along, stay tuned.

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Probably won't talk about it next week, but the week after that I hope to announce what's coming with that, probably the first, the week of Christmas or the first week in January.

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Yeah, that's what we got going on there and the best things about Calderas is their energy efficiency.

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Oh, let's not forget about their energy efficiency.

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Caldera spas are designed to retain heat and use energy wisely, and I wrote this down.

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So I just want to say it right, so you can use your spa without breaking the bank on your utility bills.

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And that's where I was going into earlier.

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Everybody I've had at least six between the last six days brand new freshwater IQ startups and the first question is oh my, they're so scared of their utility bills going to go skyrocket and they're actually really nervous about it.

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And the first thing I say is don't panic, please don't panic.

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You're not even probably going to notice it.

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I did some study and I think it's about a dollar a day maybe, and and if that's not good enough, if a dollar a day isn't worth it to you to have that luxury there's a lot things in life that you spend a dollar on worse and that's a dollar a day in january is about what that costs and the reason for that exactly yeah exactly is.

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They have that fiber core insulation, which is that wool base insulation.

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That's a loose pack but it's completely from the top to the bottom of the hot tub.

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It's completely filled with insulation.

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It's amazing because I have a whole blog on that.

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So check that out.

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On the hot tub ladyco, just search fiber core.

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But the cool thing about that and I've had a couple people comment on the channel lately is that they don't want a fully foam insulated hot tub because if it ever leaks it's a very expensive repair to get that leaked.

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So with this FiberCore insulation it's about 30% more efficient and if you ever do have a leak, you literally just shop, vac it out and repair the leak and then you put the insulation back in.

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So it's good for the environment, it's good for the hot tub and it is super, super efficient and in, like I said in the month of january, it's probably going to cost you about a dollar a day the only time.

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You'll probably well january, february, depending when that uh arctic blast shows up, because it does every year in south dakota.

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Arctic blast will come, um, we Blast will come.

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We used to watch the weather guy in Keloland or wherever it was.

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I'm sorry, I don't mean to bring any news channels, but I love them all.

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When they made that announcement Arctic Blast is coming, you just frown, you just go oh yuck, but it happens and it will happen this year again, and that's when you get below zeros and the hot tubs from Caldera have never failed.

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They don't.

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That brings up a story that I love to tell.

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Way back in the day, like way back in the day when Alan and I had our first hot tub store, there was a ice storm that had come through and we were selling Calderas at the time and the iStore came through and it knocked out power everywhere.

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There was power everywhere, and the town I had the hot tub store in was in Norfolk, nebraska, very much an egg community, and we were personally without power, I think 10 days.

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Everybody was without power and Alan was driving all over the country with his generator winterizing and closing down hot tubs so they wouldn't freeze.

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Not one of them was a Caldera and it was day 13.

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And he was going 200 miles away to a hot tub that was on a farm and he was on his way out there.

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The customer called on the way out there and said the power came back on.

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I had him turn on the hot tub to see where it was.

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Back on, I had them turn on the hot tub to see where it was and it was at 34 degrees after 13 days of no power at all, and it was zero degrees the entire time.

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So these hot tubs are super well insulated.

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Now that's not peeking in it and checking to see what's going on, but it definitely makes a huge difference.

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Kyle and Kayla are doing a good job here.

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In the comments Kayla says oh wow, that's too small, I do not have a lounge, I'm too short for a lounge, but I do to curl up in the corner at seats by the filter and, well, lounge that way with one leg up With one leg up.

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So I did know that Kyle and Kayla are actually my kids and they're on the shorter side.

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They're not both my kids, but Kayla's my daughter-in-law, but she's definitely followed our short idea there.

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Sorry, kyle, you're on the shorter side.

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And then Kyle shared the Instagram photo for you guys to all check out.

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And then Kayla came back and says you mentioned affordable.

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Let me read that because you can't see it.

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You mentioned being affordable.

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What cost do I need to consider after the initial purchase before going through with buying a hot tub?

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You could read that yeah, good point, you can't read anything and you can, okay, guys I just got to show you, I have to show you, I have to print this.

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I have glasses on.

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I have to print this big so he can read it, and he can read that tiny little screen on there.

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So I think that's.

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I cannot read newspapers.

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I'm 60 years old and, yeah, everything's got to be blown up for me.

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But that's all good, so it is all good, because my eyesight is getting up there as well.

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So the that you need to be thinking about when buying a hot tub, other than the cost of the hot tub, is you need a solid surface to put it on.

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So, whether that's a deck, a concrete pad, that is what we prefer.

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So preferably you're putting it on a concrete slab.

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If you haven't poured one yet, we would like it to be six inches, a six inch deep floating slab.

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It doesn't have to be reinforced or have footings or anything like that.

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If you already have concrete there, it's fine.

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You don't need to rip it out.

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You need pavers.

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I've put them on gravel.

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I've put them on railroad ties, the free flow spas, which are absolutely awesome.

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You can just put those directly out on the yard.

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You can put those on grass.

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They're a great option for a plug and play.

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So there's definitely that.

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So you need the solid surface to put on.

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You're going to need the power to hook it up to.

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If it's a 110 hot tub most of them these days are 110 hot tub.

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They're just a regular 110, 15 amp plug in.

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That's going to be the, again, the free flows.

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That's a plug and play option.

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They're totally awesome.

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So you don't need to do anything there.

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Just don't run them on an electrical cord.

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You do need an outlet closer there.

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If it is a 220 hot tub.

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You do need to check out which hot tub you're getting.

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Some of them are single 50 amp breakers and some of them are a 20, 30 amp breaker.

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Again, caldera spas those GFCI boxes are included with the purchase of your hot tub.

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So that's a huge expense that you don't have to pay for out front of your hot tub.

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So you have that Plumbing.

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Don't need it.

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There is zero plumbing that you need.

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So that is absolutely amazing.

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So I need a solid surface and I need power to hook it up.

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You can give me those two things.

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I can get you a hot tub.

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Now I know the next question you're all thinking that is what does a hot tub actually cost?

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And that's a great question.

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And just to give you an idea, we have our entry-level hot tubs.

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Those are going to be your plug and plays, typically a 110, one pump system.

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Those are anywhere from about $5,000 to about $8,000 these days.

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So that's where you're starting at.

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I guess we do have the pre-owned or the used hot tubs.

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That's a good way to go.

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If you guys are just looking to get in the market, check Facebook Marketplace, check your local dealer.

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There's lots of used hot tubs on the market today.

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I would say on average, to get something that is running and doing well, don't ever buy a used hot tub unless you're buying it from a dealer that's willing to stand behind it and unless you see it running, hot and full of water.

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If you don't see those three things, do not buy a used hot tub.

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Again, if you're buying it from a dealer, they're usually going to stand behind it.

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Great point.

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Sorry, I got a lot to talk about here.

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No, you're good Okay.

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So used hot tubs.

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You're going to usually find those anywhere from $5,000 to about $12,000.

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Every day I post used hot tubs on Facebook, every single day and every single question every single time is it salt?

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No, I very rarely get a saltwater hot tub to sell on the pre-owned market.

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People just love them, they keep them and if I do get them, there's a waiting list.

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So you're not going to see a saltwater hot tub on my pre-owned site.

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Once in a while one out of 100 might be a saltwater hot tub, but it's pretty rare.

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So if you find a saltwater hot tub in that $10,000 to $12,000 market, buy it, buy it now.

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So then your next line is going to be the value line.

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That's going to be the Vakonza series.

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Those are typically a 220 hot tub.

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The most common size is going to be like a seven by seven, six or seven person.

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That is going to run you probably anywhere from the ranges of, let's say we're going to be the 110 units, going to start at around 9,000.

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You can go all the way up to 15,000 on the big seven-person unit.

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The next series up is our Paradise series, also known as the Paradise series.

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We're just going to call it that that is a saltwater series.

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Then you're getting into really good warranties a 10-year warranty on the shell, five years against leaks, five years on everything else, always going to have a 24-hour circulation pump, going to have your salt system, typically

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